The following are three emails that represent the “back and forth” of the title of this post.
- The first is from Dan Klement and appeared in the Explorer on 10-21-15 about the challenger Hartung.
- The second is a response from Ryan Hartung to the letter.
- The third is Dan Klement’s response to Hartung.
Take a minute and read through them. Mr. Klement calls out Hartung in no uncertain terms.
Dan Klement from the Explorer
Ryan Hartung…..A wolf in sheeps clothing
Don’t be fooled by the comments that come out of Ryan Hartung’s mouth. He wants you to believe that he is this young professional with young kids and that he is representative of what is now over 50% of the make up of Oro Valley’s population. I have heard him speak on numerous occasions and have observed his comments about why he is running. I was floored by his willingness to lie to us the voters. He is the ringleader for the group opposing Satish Hiremath, Joe Hornat, Mary Snider, and Lou Waters. I have heard him say that he wants to be your voice and he says he wants civility and transparency. Really? Then why is he calling everyone “Special Interests” when they don’t support him? That’s civility? Why also is he going around in the cover of darkness and putting up these black and white signs that have an arrow pointing to the signs of Hiremath, Hornat, Snider and Waters which states “Paid for by $pecial interests”? What is he trying to hide? Why not do it in the daylight? Why did he distance himself from Tom Kamoske who was one of his strongest supporters when Mr. Kamoske shoved Vice Mayor Lou Waters cutting him over the right eye, and then state that he had no knowledge of who Mr. Kamoske was? This is the kind of accountablility that we want as a leader?
We need people who will continue to move this community forward for OUR benefit. Ryan Hartung has no vision. Like his science fiction writings, he thinks he can fabricate stories and manipulate us by passing himself off as “one of us” just to get our vote. The election will be a head to head race and he will be running against Joe Hornat. Joe Hornat has done remarkable things for our community. The Oro Valley that we have today is because of the vision that he shares along with Hiremath, Snider and Waters. Cast your vote for Joe Hornat. Don’t be fooled by what comes out of Ryan Hartung’s mouth. He is manipulative, cunning and he is willing to lie to us the voters. He doesn’t have your best interest at heart. He is not good for Oro Valley. In short…..Ryan Hartung is a wolf in sheeps clothing.
Ryan Hartung Response to the Dan Klement
I read your editorial about me the other day and am left wondering, why? Why would you write such a horrible article with so many lies about someone you have never met and apparently have no intention of meeting? It is fine if you disagree with my positions, I obviously disagree with yours, but under no circumstance would I go into print media and fabricate a story about someone I’d never met. I have the utmost regard for Oro Valley’s police and the Golder Ranch firefighters and hold you guys above many other professions because of the risks you take. If I’m elected I don’t want to do anything but strengthen both of your services and you would have known that if you had reached out to me before writing what you did. I have never lied during this campaign or the recall and the signs you mention are not mine, you’d know that if you had bothered to read the bottom of them. I don’t understand why you would want to politicize the fire department when there is a very good chance that one or two of the incumbents are going to be voted out. Why possibly poison future Council members against you? But you said what you said and I’m sure you are proud of it. I would never stoop to your low. You are the reason many qualified people never want to enter politics.
Dan Klement Response to Hartung
It always makes me laugh when wanna be politicians go off half crocked calling voters liars because they’re too naive to look at their own lies!!
First off, I am not affiliated with Golder Ranch Fire anymore. I am retired and I served as a union leader and Captain under Chief John Fink. I also served as rep for the Professional Fire Fighters of Arizona. In addition I am still involved with the International Fire Fighters out of D.C. with the Foundation under General President Harold Schaitberger. I have nothing to do with local Fire Fighters or Police and their political decisions although, I was pleased to see who they are supporting in this unnecessary recall.
Where in my letter does it say that the signs were yours??? It doesn’t because I didn’t. If you had bothered to read my letter correctly you would of understood that. I did say that you were going around putting up signs at night that had an arrow pointing towards the sign of those who I support!! Are you gonna try and tell me you didn’t tap in one of those signs in the cover of darkness??? Be careful, because I know the TRUTH!!
You also continue to state how much the incumbents raised our taxes. Doubled your taxes? Really?? Why don’t you state the truth and let people know how much it is really gonna cost the taxpayers? My math says that it will be about sixty bucks a year. Pretty good price for more services to the elderly, middle aged, and children of Oro Valley. Tell me I’m wrong.
Are you also going to deny that you don’t repeatedly call any group that doesn’t support you a “special interest group”? How do you expect to overcome that if you become elected?? And you run on the platform of civility?? How civil is that calling people names??? That is misleading as is your whole campaign in my opinion!
Apparently you think I had no intention of meeting you. Wrong again Ryan. My wife and I showed up at the El Conquistador resort to hear and meet the opposition because we really wanted to hear your vision as well as that of the others. But apparently you and your cronies cowardly backed out at the last minute. Why??? Because your side demanded the questions beforehand and didn’t get them? The candidates I support had the courage to show up in Sun City where they don’t have much support, because in my opinion, they are leaders and believe in what they are doing. They have a vision for this town and I believe in their vision also.
How about you affiliation with Mr. Kamoske? I was standing 5 feet away from my friend Lou Waters when Mr. Kamoske, without a doubt, deliberately shoved him. Then Kamoske had the nerve to fall backwards to the ground. What did I do? I tried to help your friend Mr. Kamoske as he laid there unable to get up foolishly claiming that Lou shoved HIM??? What was your first reaction? It was to denounce that you ever knew him. It’s all on the video. Why not just admit that you friend made a mistake rather than you denying publicly that you didn’t even know him? After all, he was helping you turn in recall signatures for your behalf. Is this another shining example of the other virtue that you are running on which is transparency? You are lying to the people and telling them that you don’t even know Mr. Kamoske!!
Then you have the nerve to tell me that I must be “proud” of the letter that I wrote? Far from proud Ryan. Disgusted is the first word that comes to my mind. Disgusted of you and the opposition misleading this great town where I choose to raise my family. Because of Satish Hiremath, Joe Hornat, Mary Snider, and Lou Waters, this town is running on a surplus, while adding many great amenities, including the community and recreation center. It’s pretty easy to mislead a town on the golf business. But there is so much more to it than just the golf. I sincerely hope that you are intelligent enough to know that. If not, GOD help us if you get elected.
I have a grandmother, retired parents, an aunt and uncle, cousins and hundreds of friends in Oro Valley who all can benefit from the town center. I also have two young daughters, one in grammar school and one in high school, who will benefit from it as well. There is not much for teenagers to do in this town and a teen center along with a senior center is very much needed in my opinion.
It also is a farce that you continue to mislead the voters about your issues with the purchase before the council members have had a chance to succeed or fail. Perfect platform for you though so you can get in there let it crash and continue to blame the council members who voted for it. Don’t tell me that you have not publicly stated that the first thing that you would do is to immediately stop funding including funding to the golf course. That came out of your own mouth. That is your plan? To let it turn brown and take it to the voters because you don’t have the courage to make a decision for yourself? You are talking about 300+ acres in the middle of our town. Property values will be destroyed and I don’t want to see that. I believe the current council will make it work and add more greatness to this town on top of what they have already added.
Once again the only thing in your reply that has any grain of truth to it is that we disagree. The bottom line Mr. Hartung is that you are running for Council… I am not. Therefore Ryan, like it or not, I have every right to state my opinion as a resident of Oro Valley in an editorial page. But once again you try and spin it as yet another person on a “Special Interest” label. In my career, I have seen your type time and time again. Bullies who like to intimidate good people. You don’t like it that I have an opinion that counters yours? Let me clue you in on something my friend, which I think you better get used to…..this is a country that is built on a democratic process and it is a free country that has First Amendment Rights. It is not only my obligation to question you, it is my duty by constitutional right.
Instead of trying to bully and intimidate me, why don’t you quit hiding behind your computer on the last leg of your campaign and start telling the people what your vision for the town is instead of just throwing rocks at good people? Is it because the truth is that you really don’t have a vision?
What did you have to gain from sending me a reply? Were you hoping that I would just go away because of your bully tactics and that I would just keep silent? You are sadly mistaken. It’s my gain now and rest assured that I will be sending your letter along with my reply to hundreds of Oro Valley voters so they can get a better look at Ryan Hartung who cowardly backed out of the El Conquistador candidate forum and then ridicules a voter for not trying to meet him. I was right then and I am right now…you are a wolf in sheep’s clothing!!!!!