Déjà vu…is it 2012!

Apparently so, the 2012 “hit” signs with negative messaging have come out of storage and are being placed around town. Just change the names and there you go.

Below is a post from 2012:

Good PAC? Bad PAC?

“WeAreOroValley” is the latest in a string of PAC’s (Political Action Committee) filed by ex-Town Council Member Conny Culver.

Conny is the Chairman and Shirley LaMonna the Treasurer of “We Are Oro Valley”. The intended purpose of this political committee is to support or oppose one or more candidates and to raise money to finance the cause. This group paid for and posted the negative and misleading black and white signs on the right-of-ways during the recent Town Council election…

See TRUTH Categories (left-hand side), “Political Action Committee” to read full post.


I have put off writing this post since June 24, 2015.  I did that for a couple of reasons. First, I was livid Wednesday.  But I have come to realize that the lies and misrepresentations the recall movement representatives used to gather signatures were simply a precursor to this incident.  This kind of behavior, other than the physical nature, is exactly what they have done from the beginning.

Many of the recall ‘brain trust’ people are well known activists who oppose most everything under the sun. About the only thing you can find that they support is the three minority council members. And when you look at the morals and character of those three you must come to the conclusion that their supporters approve of their conduct, morals and character.  Remember the old expression, “Birds of a feather, flock together.”

The second reason I put off writing this piece is that I wanted to see all videos of the incident and hear the media reports on the incident. I wanted to see the website of the recall movement and their face book page. I wanted to write an accurate and truthful report because that’s what we do on the TRUTH. That’s what sets us apart from the ‘luv’ blog.

It is very clear from the video that there was a wide opening for the Ryan Hartung party to have an unobstructed path to the door of Town Hall. It wasn’t as though they had to run a gauntlet  and shove their way through. The twelve of them walked without hesitation or obstruction into the Town building.  The supporters of the Mayor were quiet and peaceful; no yelling, booing or name calling. Mr. Kamoske on the other hand was taunting the crowd and video supports that fact.

Here is what one video plainly shows:

Hartung ‘s group showed up at the late 6 second mark on the video. Mr. Kamoske veered away from the group and a direct path to the Town Hall entrance and approached Vice Mayor Waters at the late 10 second mark. Both arms of Kamoske were extended and locked with paper(s) being held by both hands. That in itself is an aggressive move toward Mr. Waters. At the early 11 second mark Mr. Kamoske makes physical contact with the camera lens, shoving the camera back into Vice Mayor Waters face.  At the 12 second mark Waters simply turns his body toward Kamoske. He makes no step toward Kamoske who is now past Waters with his back to the Vice Mayor and continues to walk toward the entrance to Town Hall. Kamoske never breaks stride. At the early 13 second mark Mr. Kamoske is still totally upright and now well past the Vice Mayor. At the late 13 second mark you can see Kamoske pivot and begin his flop. That’s 2 seconds after the initial contact with Waters, with Kamoske in full stride for those two seconds and Waters never moving other that turning his upper body. Mr. Waters is seen standing with his left hand apparently on his left hip as you can plainly see his elbow close to his left side. Mr. Kamoske doesn’t hit the ground until the 14 second mark. It was a controlled fall. Mr. Kamoske reportedly yelled, “Waters pushed me!” Two videos prove otherwise.

In a post incident interview, Hartung stated, “Lou lashed back.”  That my friends is a complete fabrication. When you stop the video split second to split second and look at it, it is clear that the Vice Mayor’s only move was to make an attempt to remove the papers from in front of his lens. The move by Waters is a simple slapping motion with his left hand; the left arm is never extended in a shoving motion. It is unclear whether he even actually made contact with Kamoske.  Mr.Hartung also stated that Vice-Mayor Waters was participating in the protest and wearing a red shirt along with the others. Here is a quote from him copied from the ‘luv’ blog. “Council members Joe Hornat, Lou Waters and Mary Snider we all wearing the same red shirts.” He later apologized for that statement on the OVCOG face book page as being incorrect and admitted that Mr. Waters was wearing a blue shirt. In fact Councilman Hornat also was not wearing one of the “same red shirts”.

It is also interesting that the OVCOG face book page has been wiped clean of any reference to this incident to include an exchange of comments regarding the incident.

Many eye witnesses confirm that the Kamoske ‘wilt’ was not a result of any action by the Vice-Mayor but something similar to a World Wrestling Federation rehearsed event.  One eye witness stated that recall candidate Steve Didio was seen lowering his head and shaking it back and forth in disgust at the actions of Kamoske.

But the bigger picture, and the one that I believe we need to concentrate on is that anger is the modus operandi of the recall movement.  Mr. Kamoske is a key figure in the recall effort. He is one of their trusted inner circle. That’s why he was part of the group delivering signatures. He just wasn’t along for the ride. He carries influence within the group. He is who they are.  We know they lied and repeatedly trespassed when gathering signatures.

Ladies and gentlemen, Wednesday, June 24, 2015, will be remembered as a dark day in the history of Oro Valley. It was a day on which a member of the duly elected government of this community was assaulted by an out of control citizen who simply didn’t want to be photographed.

We are blessed to have four dedicated persons who have sacrificed much of their private lives to make this community a great place to live. They have brought us through one of the worst financial disasters in this nation’s history. They made a lot of tough decisions along the way.  We owe them!

As time passes you are going to be asked to actively participate in this election. I hope you will. We need to send another strong message to the Kamoske clan.

Update…..Stay Tuned for the TRUTH

The following is the actual video of the incident which already has been widely run by the media.

 www.facebook.com/orovalleypolicedepartment or https://youtu.be/AVElhye7Fis

The following is the news story on KVOA of Hornat and Hartungs views of the same video.

You judge for yourself, but we are going with Hornat on this one!!



We find this regrettable, as reported by Tucson News Now:

Oro Valley man cited for assault of vice mayor

Updated: Jun 24, 2015 5:15 PM Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:15 PM EDT

By John Ames

“According to a news release from the Oro Valley Police Department, Thomas John Kamoske, 63, allegedly assaulted Lou Waters, 76, while he was photographing people gathered outside the Town Administration Building in support of Mayor Satish Hiremath.

Police said Kamoske allegedly charged at Waters and shoved papers into his camera lens. Waters was bruised and scraped above his right eye, police said.

Witnesses reported that Kamoske claimed he was pushed to the ground by Waters, but a video of the incident appeared to show him deliberately falling to the ground, according to police.

Kamoske was cited for assault and released into Pima County Justice Court.”

Stay tuned for more updates and the TRUTH, some local blogs are putting their spin on today’s incident.

Tucson News Now story appears at



From the Dais…June 17, 2015

Roll Call: Present Hiremath, Waters, Hornat, Snider, Zinkin. By Phone: Garner, Burns


Waters: Update on mold issue at Community Center. Private inspector hired, after a thorough inspection, a small amount of mold was detected in an unoccupied water heater closet. No other mold detected, removed to industry protocols. Airborne samples were taken, tested and found to be lower than outside levels.

Reported success of Thursday Pasta Nights at the Community Center, there were 40 attendees week one and 85 week two.

Meet the Architect Event, Monday, June 29 6-7 pm in the Sunset Room at the Community Center. Opportunity to view the three focus areas of the initial renovation of the Center.

Hornat: as part of American Legion Post 132 along with other members, participated in recent Explorer Academy at Golder Ranch facilities as actors in training evaluation scenarios.

Attended the annual Urban Land Institute in Scottsdale; reporting that even simple temporary “sign codes” have reached the U.S. Supreme Court for the Town of Gilbert.

Zinkin: “just came back from Salt Lake City” (attended National League of Cities)… “if you haven’t been there, it’s a wonderful community… the stigma if you are not a Mormon; you are nothing, not true. All the bars (stammering)   don’t have to be a member to get in…it’s a regular town now!”

Talked about Indians not paying sales taxes and would be in favor of starting dialogue about mass transit in Oro Valley.

Snider: Parks and Recreation Director, Kristy Diaz-Trahan asked for new member update. Report of 51 new members to the Center since June 1. Total memberships since the opening May1 is 229. Forecast for the first year was 200 memberships. Well over the annual forecast in just one month.

Ms. Diaz also reported over 90 children are currently participating in target camps. The American Junior Golf Association will hold an event in OV 1/15-18/2016.

Drive-In Movie Night at the Driving Range will take place Saturday, June 20th at sunset.

Zinkin: (Consent agenda item C. request for modification of a conservation easement). “Let me get this right, this applicant lives in a 7,500 sq. ft. house, he wants to add 680 sq. ft. to this little piece of squalor over there in Stone Canyon…don’t feel sorry for this guy…7,500 not enough for the guy…will not support…this is gluttony…” Staff response OV actually gaining preservation with modification. Vote was 4-3, Hiremath, Hornat, Snider, Waters in favor. Burns, Garner, Zinkin opposed.

Zinkin (Regular agenda Item 2) grandstands about the town being obligated to stabilize the buildings at Steam Pump Ranch. Apparently unaware this item was brought back specifically to fund Steam Pump as represented in the previous Council meeting.

Indicated he would vote no on the 2015/16 budget at the May 20th TC meeting. His telephone connection “dropped” when calling for the June 3rd meeting to accept the final budget. Hiremath, points out Zinkin voted NO on the 2013/14 and 2014/15 budget which contained funding for Steam Pump. Hiremath, Hornat, Snider & Waters have consistently voted yes on the budgets.   Zinkin consistently votes NO to fund Steam Pump Ranch with his NO votes on the Manager’s Recommended Budget. Vote was Hornat, Hiremath, Waters, Snider, Zinkin, Burns yes. Garner abstains.

Quick Start for OV Community & Recreation Center

Good news for those that may have missed this Media Release from the Town.  Read here or click the link below:

 The Oro Valley Community & Recreation Center gets off to a quick start

 Oro Valley, Arizona (June 3, 2015)

Since its grand opening on May 2, 2015, the new Oro Valley Community & Recreation Center has been booming with activity. The month of May was promoted as membership month, during which time, registration fees were waived. 176 new memberships were sold (for a total of 424 people, as part of family passes). The Town had estimated that in its first year of operation, 200 memberships would be sold-or approximately 17 per month. To have nearly met the annual membership goal in its first month of operation is confirmation that an important need is now being met in our community.

The month of May also included a grand opening celebration on May 2, including free use of the pools, driving range and tennis courts, as well as the kickoff of Hack Golf (golf played with larger cups). Hack Golf will continue every Friday, Saturday and Sunday in the month of June at the Pusch Ridge nine-hole golf course. Other golf promotions at the El Conquistador golf course include the “Summer Sizzle” special: $149 per player, which includes six rounds of golf at either of the 18-hole courses, two rounds of golf at the Pusch Ridge nine-hole course, six non-alcoholic beverages, two sleeves of Callaway golf balls, and 10% off restaurant purchases. The golf package is good through Labor Day.

At La Vista Restaurant, a new Friday night menu was unveiled May 22. Each month will bring a different dinner menu. Starting June 4, the restaurant will premiere Pasta Night every Thursday from 5 to 7 p.m. Chef Robert and his culinary team will have two pasta stations ready to custom make pasta dishes for diners. Cost is $13.50 per person, plus tax.

A Drive-In Movie on the Driving Range was held May 16, with more than 100 people in attendance. Additional drive-in events will be held this summer-the next one on June 20 at sunset.

As the facility continues to transition from a former country club into a community and recreation center, many improvements are planned. Entryway signage has already been installed and in the near term, a new lounge area will be developed for patrons to gather and enjoy coffee.

The Town recently finalized a contract with the Breckenridge Group for design services. In the coming months, following public input sessions, the design phase will begin for identified improvements. A “Meet the Architect” public session will be planned over the next month.



Un “Explored”

Councilmember Joe Hornat sent us the following email that was sent to the “Letter to the Editor” at the “Explorer” concerning an unprinted timely response to a previous letter submitted by Mr. Hines. The un “explored” letter  follows this also.


I am a little disappointed that my response to Mr. Hines letter printed last week was not in the print edition of the Explorer today. I did get an “email” receipt for my letter.

I am concerned that only the “other” side is being heard in this debate and that the voice of others is not being heard. I think we saw this with the previous administration and frankly I was hoping for better.

My letter was a rebuttal of Mr. Hines letter based on facts that have been presented are verifiable but ignored.

You are right in your editorial “My Turn” that you don’t know about Oro Valley. I don’t expect you to know at this stage, or to edit letters to the editor for accuracy, but I do expect that you allow rebuttal and let the readers judge for themselves.

Hopefully, in the future you will extend that courtesy, i.e. responsibility, to “this side” also.


Joe Hornat


Un Explored follows.


In response to Mr. Hines letter to the editor last week, let’s try and concentrate on some facts instead of inflammatory conspiratorial surmise.

  1. Oro Valley Marketplace (OVMP) is a success and a major contributor and partner in the sales tax contributions to OV. The very same sales tax that pays for the amenities you enjoy here. This Council was not in office when the OVMP was approved by voters.
  2. The La Cholla changes were a 7-0 vote, not the entire responsibility of the four “puppets” Mr. Hines accuses.
  3. The future widening of LaCholla has already been provided for in the Regional Transportation Authority (RTA) budget as explained at the very meetings Mr. Hines was attending, but wasn’t listening. The timing of this is in conjunction with the potential build out Mr. Hines in concerned about and in fact has been moved up at the request of OV.
  4. Mr. Hines, like so many of us in OV, is currently living in home that was part of what was once “pristine” desert. We were not denied that, but should we deny that to others?
  5. Apartments are part of every community in America and ours is no different. What prejudice exists towards apartments located on a major thoroughfare, I just don’t understand. They aren’t in anyone’s “back yard” and they are and will be a contributor to the already mentioned sales tax we survive on here in OV. Add to traffic, somewhat for sure, if Mr. Hines wakes up a little earlier I suggest he take a look at the traffic that is coming down from north of OV already…that is why Oracle is being widened…not because of the apartments.
  6. Campaign contributions…really. Is Mr. Hines such a small man that he expects anyone would sell their soul or their vote for any amount let alone the meager amounts mentioned? To what personal end? None of the Council is in real estate, construction or anything related to this. Perhaps so that we could continue to enjoy the “perks” (free parking at OVMP, et al) that go along with our elected positions? I will wait for someone to list those!

Maybe Mr. Hines would sell his vote and that is why he is so concerned.

November, yes! A chance for the other 24,000 voters in OV to be heard over the 3,000 who signed the recall petitions and keep OV on the track that so many have approved of and enjoyed already, including Mr. Hines by the way.


Just the Truth about comments by others

We’ve had a couple of emails about comments made by Mr. Zinkin regarding the failed referendum petitions and the spin in emails and repeated on other blogs and why hasn’t the TRUTH responded. Well maybe we should have and now we will.

As to the referendum petitions, Mr. Zinkin has been quoted as saying something about “not calling a hold on the right end if the play was going to the left …and he wished the law was more forgiving…etc”. That is a paraphrase and we admit that. But to the point, apparently Councilmember Zinkin thinks the rule of law and the rules of football have the same weight in our society. Maybe that is part of his problem with the law…Zinkin thinks it’s a game. Seems ironic that we’ve seen him hold up the General Plan and require “strict adherence” to a policy document, but yet the written law as he sees it, should be “forgiving”.

On the first appeal of this, The Secretary of State of Arizona recognized that this issue was bigger than an OV issue and interceded via the Attorney General’s office. The Superior court interpreted the law as it was written. In an attempt to keep the referendum issue alive, the “civil rights” card was played and subsequently was poorly received, i.e. rejected by the Appellate Court. The Supreme Court didn’t even deem it worthy of consideration. Yet the mistake by the instigators of the referendum has been clearly spun onto four members of Town Council and perpetrated into a recall attempt.

While we are on the subject of other blogs and spin, let’s not forget the attempt to paint all of Council with consideration of “raiding the contingency fund” or support the idea of “bond” to speed up the work to be done at the new Community Center. No bias here for us, i.e. good or bad idea, but the TRUTH is that the report they are referring to was done at the behest of Councilmember Burns…not the Council. But the “spin” is to make the entire Council look like they requested this report and they did not. The report itself mentions this information was provided at the request of Councilmember Burns. It is unfortunate that so many are not able to read the whole story, or so quick to just reject the whole truth, but tell half and spin it to continue their bias.

What do you think?


AZ Supreme Court denies appeal

AZ Supreme Court denies appeal for El Conquistador purchase referendum

Posted: May 27, 2015 12:04 PM MST Updated: May 27, 2015 12:09 PM MST

TUCSON, AZ (Tucson News Now) – The Arizona Supreme Court has denied hearing an appeal for a referendum that would ask Oro Valley voters to decide whether to convert the El Conquistador Country Club into a community recreation center.The appeal denial was posted on Tuesday, nearly a month after the Town of Oro Valley took formal ownership of the country club on May 1.A request for a referendum has been knocked down starting at the town level in January, when the clerk found that signatures for the referendum petition were invalid due to serial number errors that did not comply with state law.The Arizona Superior Court and appellate court upheld the town’s decision earlier this year.A referendum on the El Conquistador acquisition would have taken the decision out of the town council’s hands and into voters’ hands this November but the Arizona supreme court’s denial of the appeal eliminates the chance for the referendum.Oro Valley Mayor Satish Hiremath said he would have welcomed the referendum process but said petition organizers did not follow proper protocol.

“It’s unfortunate that the organizers did not follow the guidelines and the signers were not heard. This was the only way the voters could weigh in since the Council cannot refer these type of issues to the voters, contrary to what some folks are putting out,” Hiremath said in a statement to Tucson News Now.

Oro Valley bought the 324-acre country club and golf course for $1 million. Revenue from Oro Valley’s sales tax increase that went into effect in March will fund capital investment in the property’s facilities.Copyright 2015 Tucson News Now. All rights reserved. 


Manna From The Opposition

The voting citizens of Oro Valley were handed a gift this past week which they cannot ignore. Our residents have been recently bombarded by lies, half truths and innuendo all in attempt to recall four of the best elected representatives we have had in many years.

In a recent letter to the editor of the Explorer,  Don Bristow, defeated candidate for Town Council, stated that his trust in local government (specifically referring to Mayor Hiremath and Council members Snider,Waters and Hornat) had eroded. His reasoning was :

“ Backroom deals, withholding critical information, and ignoring the residents’ desires are not acceptable behavior for our elected officials.” (I couldn’t agree with your more, Mr. Bristow)

Ms. Diane Peters, local gadfly (according to Webster, “one who annoys others” ), stated about the aforementioned elected officials, “they destroyed our beautiful town”.

At the Town Council meeting held on Wednesday, May 6, 2015, the same Ms. Peters, spoke before the Town Council. It was mostly self aggrandizement , but she did reveal some very interesting information which cannot go unnoticed.  Ms. Peters spoke about the December 10, 2014 Town Council meeting at which a General Plan Amendment was heard. It was an amendment that had received a great deal of attention from the NIMBY/CAVE coalition (NCC). I probably don’t need to tell you that the NCC was opposed to the amendment. Go figure!!! :-)

Just as an FYI,  a major general plan amendment requires a super majority (5 of 7) to pass or deny. Only a simple majority is needed for a continuance.

At the end of the general plan hearing Councilman Zinkin offered a motion to deny the amendment. He threw up a smoke screen about the Regional Transportation Agency(RTA) not being finished with other projects and their (RTA’s) lack of reliability. He then went on to tell folks that in spite of his motion to deny he would work with them in the future to work out the issues. However if the amendment was denied, as he motioned, there would be no opportunity to work with anyone in the future. The applicant would have to start over and wait until this year to re-apply.  But Zinkin, KNEW his motion would not pass. He needed 5 votes, two of which would have to come from Hiremath, Snider, Waters or Hornat. We all know that wasn’t going to happen so his motion was disingenuous  and simply part of a pre-arranged scheme .

Mayor Hiremath then suggested that  Zinkin withdraw his motion and replace it with a motion to continue the item. That occurred and the item was continued and heard on May 6, 2015.

What Ms. Peters disclosed last Wednesday was that she had made “a deal”  with Councilmen Zinkin, Garner and Burns before the December 10, 2014, Town Council meeting. This can be heard by watching the video of that meeting on the Town web site. It begins around the 1:18 mark on the recording. They (Zinkin, Garner and Burns) were to vote to deny  the general plan amendment or  to have it continued. Since three votes can’t deny a major GP amendment a continuance was the goal. What follows is a quote of her testimony as to why the amendment did not pass:

“The reason they did not pass is because I had worked out a deal with Councilmen Zinkin, Garner and Burns to either reject the amendments or to vote for a continuance with the caveat that the applicant had to conduct further negotiations with us.”

So just to recap and to make this perfectly clear, unless Ms. Peters, is lying through her teeth (a possibility I admit),  a “back room deal” was made, before the matter had come before the Town Council for consideration,  by three sitting council members. In this case a minority (3 of 7) could not deny the plan. I believe that this “deal” between Ms. Peters and Zinkin, Garner and Burns  could well be a violation of the Arizona Open Meeting Law. At the minimum it is unseemly and a violation of their Code of Conduct.

This, my friends, is what we are dealing with in this community. A group of renegade, uninformed citizens and three sitting Councilmen who have no respect for the legislative process or their own rules.

Mr. Bristow is absolutely correct. “Backroom deals” are being made. But it isn’t Mayor Hiremath, or Council members Snider, Waters or Hornat making them.

I hope you will remember this when it comes time to vote.  I’ll remind you just to be sure.

Mold discovered at Community Center

We don’t usually do this, but when someone proposes to know so much we just can’t resist.  The following was in the Sun City Blog.

To spare you the excitement, yes mold was discovered…one square foot and remediation will be less than $1000.  See the tape of the Council Meeting of 5-6-15 and listen to Paul Kessler’s report.

From someone who knows it all and says “Trust me”…really. Note the self serving of trying to promote Sun City golf at the end as the real reason for discord.


WOW- FYI- the guy pictured next to the Satish Hiremath is his good friend Bert Lopez – everybody else calls him Umberto Lopez. (Note: we did not  bother with the picture)

 Let me give you a brief history of the “mold situation.”
In the radio interview the Mayor had on February 26th and that I critiqued in a later guest column in the Explorer, in reference to a mold problem, the Mayor reported the following:
… there was no mold problem.
… that it was just the normal garden-variety green mold.
… a mold analysis had been requested.
At last Wednesday’s Town Council Study Session, Director of Planning and Infrastructure Paul Kessler’s response to an inquiry from Mike Zinkin regarding a possible mold problem included:
… they still did not have the results of the mold analysis
… the current owner (HSL/Bert Lopez) will not be responsible for mold mitigation
… and again that when the Town did the inspection back in December, they only saw shower/mildew mold (garden-variety green mold)
Trust me, if the mold mitigation is going to be expensive, it is BLACK MOLD!
Would you buy a property that might have black mold and take all financial responsibility for mitigating? A few years ago there was a house on SCOV that had black mold; it had to be taken down to the studs.
Regarding “Hack Golf” and the 15″ cups. One can only assume that each green will have a legal cup and the large – 15″. I’m not a golfer, but I foresee potential problems for the serious golfer. This would be a great opportunity to go after some of their members.